Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. But then Vail got hurt, and Kranepool and the aging Torre got more playing time.The better plan was to keep Staub, and let Milner and Vail fight for a spot. May 7, 2013 There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. The point is he made a bad team worse. Lolich was giving one of his typical awful performances in a Mets uniform. body would be a pretty slender person. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! December 20, 2019 feat fan That would make him a star in today's market. April 27, 2013 Feat Fan April 6, 2012 The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. June 30, 2019 Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. To this day she still despises Mickey Lolich. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. senor ortiz Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. Raymond Malcuit Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. And, the old ballplayers coming into the clubhouse, introducing the people with them and mooching autographed baseballs. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Lolich was a good pitcher in his prime - he won 3 games in the '68 Series vs. the Cardinals, including Game 7. I thought Rusty filled that uniform out pretty well himself! October 19, 2011 December 13, 2007 July 31, 2002 But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Pitchingwise, he made Hank Webb look like Tom Seaver. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. September 29, 2007 Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. Mickey Lolich did not want to come to the Mets. (thankfully returning in '81). 1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver trade. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. July 15, 2016 I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. bogeyman Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. June 30, 2019 For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. Jay Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. After one year in New York Lolich retired. Really? When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. Hey Mets Fan, Lolich never asked to be traded to New York. He learned to pitch lefty in order to strengthen his left hand and arm after he lost the use of his right hand for a few years as a child. I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! For a fourth starter, on a four man rotation, Lolich was decent. What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. Really? He made the all- star team 3 times, led the AL in wins once, shutouts once, complete games once, innings once, strikeouts once, and losses TWICE.He finished second (1971) and third (1972) in the Cy Young race, and he never finished higher than TENTH PLACE in the league in ERA (finished tenth in both 1971 and 1972).Baseball Reference lists among his top ten in similarity scores: Jerry Koosman, Jerry Reuss, Rick Reuschel, Luis Tiant, Vida Blue, and Joe Niekro.All of that tells me Lolich in his prime was a good pitcher, but nowhere near a HOFer. The point is he made a bad team worse. senor ortiz September 24, 2005 (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. October 4, 2006 As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. Lolich was still productive but he was never accepted in New York because of whom he was traded for. July 15, 2016 And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. He jokes with the waiter, he flirts with the waitress. OK it was a terrible trade. - Now for the trade itself. As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. Lolich was giving one of his typical awful performances in a Mets uniform. September 25, 2013 Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? Mickey liked his doughnuts. Although I'd rather have a hitter like Rusty, you have to admit, Mickey Lolich's ERA was a very respectable 3.22. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. Bartolo Colon etc). Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. GoMets2006 Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). December 13, 2007 But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. Mike B Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. October 13, 2008 As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. Mickey liked his doughnuts. The Lolich for Rusty Staub trade might be the first and only trade where two players who were well known for food establishments were traded for each other. Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. October 19, 2011 Career, season, and individual game leaders at your fingertips! August 11, 2015 (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. When popularity declined these boats were sunk and used as fill on the west shore of Oak Lane in the '30s. Lolich struck out more American League hitters than any other lefty in the history of baseball- that includes Randy Johnson, etc. But what can you expect when the team only averaged 3.4 runs for Seaver per start and 3.3 for Lolich? Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. Too bad we waited until '76 to bring him in, although his numbers indicated a lack of run support. This has never happened before? He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. eddiek Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. October 19, 2011 His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. Laura15yearoldmodel senor ortiz Jim Snedeker Peter Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! In one of his best games as a Met, hefty lefty Lolich (no doubt the prototype for David Wells), tossed 8 innings, allowing 8 hits and 2 walks while striking out 4, the only run scoring on a fourth-inning groundout by a young Dave Parker. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. However, I remember Lolich as being quite portly, so his true weight was a lot more than 170 pounds. He started 45 games and completed 29. Jim Snedeker August 7, 2002 That's more realistic but generous, I think! Shari Read about Andrew Feustel LOHS Class of 1983. =Chuck= He was a big (emphasis: BIG) bust in New York. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. LA-Mets GoMets2006 Did you boo him or make fun out of him? April 24, 2003 The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Rusty played another decade. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. Stu Baron Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. May 6, 2003 Staub a great fielder with a great arm? bogeyman Mickey loved his Harley. senor ortiz Alas, with the Mets historically typical poor run support, Lolich left, trailing 1-0, for pinch hitter Mike Phillips, who fanned for the 2nd out of the ninth, before singles by Ed Kranepool (batting for Leon Brown) and Bruce Boisclair and a walk to John Milner loaded the bases for Joe Torre. Bobster1985 That's more realistic but generous, I think! April 30, 2009 The point is he made a bad team worse. Shickhaus Franks According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Raymond Malcuit Jr. Bob P His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. April 24, 2003 There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Maybe Rusty was not in his prime when the Tigers got him, but the man could still swing the bat. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. April 27, 2013 Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. December 20, 2019 Fact is Lolich was always overweight. Larry Burns Jim Snedeker He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. October 4, 2006 Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. The last thing the Tigers needed was a dandy hitter whose hitting only went to support lopsided slugfest losses every day. October 18, 2008 His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. 170 lbs.? As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. Raymond Malcuit I don't know, I'm not a Mets expert. October 19, 2011 Mickey Lolich was the only pitcher in baseball who fit that description. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. April 23, 2003 The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. September 25, 2013 " Lolich laughs. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. April 23, 2003 Dianna Jeanneh Jones All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Did you boo him or make fun out of him? That's more realistic but generous, I think! October 18, 2008 Mickey did a few good games with the Mets as well as a couple shutouts. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Rusty played another decade. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. 170 pounds, maybe not but here's a fact: hurled 376 innings in the early 70's. He also had a terrific arm and was a darn good fielder. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. We are going all the way!" How many did he own? Gary from Chesapeake The point is he made a bad team worse. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. I was 7 years old, listening to the Mets on the radio in the car with my mother. Joe Figliola I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. January 12, 2011 He served up a home run, and my mother screamed "Lolich, you fat jerk, you stink!!!" Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. Stu Baron The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. Cut him some slack. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. Then Vail hurt his ankle playing Basketball and he was never the same. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. This has never happened before? Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. John Bruce June 2, 2006 Rusty played another decade. Stu Baron We felt the same way when the Mets traded away Seaver and got back mediocre players for him. September 12, 2002 I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. senor ortiz I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. He later resurfaced with the Padres. Shickhaus Franks Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. Ken Akerman Shari feat fan October 4, 2005 An interesting thing about Lolich that I remember from an old Mets program is that he's actually right handed. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. He started 45 games and completed 29. bob saunders He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. October 19, 2011 His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. May 7, 2013 He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Al Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. He also had a terrific arm and was a darn good fielder. He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. Having this claim (in addition to his World Series MVP) is definitely worthy of the Hall of Fame. May 7, 2013 Lolich quickly pointed out that this was not ''a childhood dream,'' but he doesn't apologize or complain about a business he can run with his wife and three teen-age daughters. Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. ''I was embarrassed at the way people were looking at me,'' he said. Mickey was finished and Rusty still had about 8-10 years left, even though the last couple were solely as a pinch hitter. Mickey Lolich was a great pitcher in the American League. Peter Did you boo him or make fun out of him? feat fan No contest. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. murphy I would put Rusty for Lolich in second place. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. I don't know if Mickey belongs in Cooperstown but he sure deserved more than 25% of the vote which was his highest showing. He still knew how to pitch but had no run support to get him a winning record. July 31, 2002 Lolich - donuts Staub - steak.The food metaphor of trading a steak for a donut is accurate in this and many Mets trades.Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. And complaining about how fat he was? Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. He started 45 games and completed 29. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Yes, Mickey had some great years with the Tigers, no disrespect to him, but acquiring him at the cost of Rusty was one of the Mets' top three bonehead trades. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. The Bellevue Hotel on Bellevue Island was built in 1899. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. =Chuck= September 29, 2007 Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Shickhaus Franks September 25, 2013 snook Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Mr. Sparkle To the guy who scored the game when Lolich gave up two homers to the no name pitcher- big deal? I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. mets I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. Take a look at his stats on baseball-reference and you will shake your head. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. Grant was a real hindrance to the Mets. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. You can't be serious. I'm still not clear - he traded Mickey Lolich to improve team speed? August 7, 2018 Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. The Tigers had some great years back in the late 60's and early 70's- much like the Mets. As somebody mentioned previously, this is really all Mike Vail's fault. That's more realistic but generous, I think! According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. The heights and the depths: the Mets won-lost record at the end of each season. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. Raymond Malcuit Jr. He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. October 19, 2011 Mickey loved his Harley. Mickey Lolich so despised the Mets experience that he sat home and ate donuts for a year rather than play again in New York. He pitched very good ball for you. Or a fantasy football team. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the June 30, 2019 May 7, 2013 Was: $179.99. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. Ken Akerman LA-Mets I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. December 13, 2007 Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Gary from Chesapeake April 6, 2012 November 12, 2006 In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). I kinda wish he had stayed with the Tigers and I could have rooted for him from afar. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. October 13, 2008 But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. October 18, 2008 support. August 7, 2018 Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. Mr. Sparkle NYB Buff June 30, 2019 C'mon John, the Mets did the Tigers a huge favor by taking this washed-up pitcher off their hands and giving them a great hitter like Rusty. 170 lbs.? All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. They were starting their descent into oblivion and the Staub trade was step in that direction. That's more realistic but generous, I think! In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. Max Power An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. August 11, 2015 HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Pitchingwise, he made Hank Webb look like Tom Seaver. Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? October 13, 2008 Raymond Malcuit Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. June 30, 2019 Would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all Mets trades. Feat Fan May 8, 2003 He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. Bobster1985 Lolich: Still a sweet delivery to the plate. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. Shickhaus Franks A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. Dianna Jeanneh Jones When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Lolich's big-league debut came May 12, 1963, in a 9-3 Detroit loss to the Cleveland Indians. Mickey liked his doughnuts. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! He told the New York Press, he pitched with his head and arm not his abdomen. I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? The Mets acquiring him for Rusty Staub was another trade made by M. Donald Grant out of spite for Staub's salary request. (thankfully returning in '81). September 24, 2005 "But you know, I enjoy making doughnuts. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Rusty played another decade. Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. Bob P His era of 3.22 is only .09% more than 20-game winner Carlton for the Phils. Shickhaus Franks God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Maudlin, anecdotal sentiment at its best! Koufax would have 175 by the All-Star Break. I had a Mickey Lolich mitt. May 6, 2003 August 18, 2001 So when your "inning eater" goes 220 and gets a bonus it's beyond comprehension. Five years before he became a Met, Lolich threw for 376 innings! May 25, 2001 Dianna Jeanneh Jones I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. June 30, 2019 would love to see a book written with lists and analysis of all trades. York Press, he could have rooted for him thinking `` great, we have Mickey Lolich did give... 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